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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Jan 19, 2010 7:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

What's your favorite version of dancin' in the streets, circa 1970 or before then? My favorite is 5-2-70 although i really haven't heard enough to make a good judgment. All I know is it's got a Tighten Up jam to die for.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jan 20, 2010 3:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Tighten up jam, you say? I may actually have to delve into pre 1973 and check this out. I can hear the pots and pans now..(just kidding)

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 20, 2010 5:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Tighten Up lobster12


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM-SvGqwkjE&;feature=related

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jan 21, 2010 9:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tighten Up lobster12

I dig on archie bell and the drells

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 19, 2010 7:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

3-18-67. It's even better jammed.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-03-18.sbd.fink.10282.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Jan 19, 2010 7:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

uh dancing is insane on this. so bloody fast.

also, just listened to "same thing" from this date, and i daresay it is among the best pigpen i've ever heard.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jan 20, 2010 7:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Everybody form a big long line and dance around now!

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Poster: csaw44 Date: Jan 19, 2010 8:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

i absolutly love the jamming from 5/6/70, even though its cut at the beginning. but, my fav early era dancing is 7/3/66

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jan 19, 2010 10:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

I just remembered Phil Lesh's liner notes to "Fallout From The Phil Zone" for Dancin'In The Streets. Phil picked the 4/12/70 version and wrote the following:

"We always thought of this as a kind of "hippie anthem" as much as anything else. I remember driving in Santa Monica on the way to the beach sometime in '66, hearing it on the radio and thinking "we GOTTA do this tune!"- we were never that great as Vandellas, as you'll hear on this version, but we liked to use it as a vehicle for stretchin' out and jammin' hard on two chords Coltrane-style, and this performance reflects some of th best of that."

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 19, 2010 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Dancin' from 4/12/70 is extremely well jammed...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-04-12.sbd.kaplan.3820.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Jan 19, 2010 7:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Agreed, this one is awesome! I know it from when I was about 12, when my dad had fallout from the phil zone.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 19, 2010 9:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Dancin'!
I'm not too keen on the July '66 versions, I think it got much better later in the year - you hear a huge improvement in the 9/16 show, and then Garcia has this wonderful solo on 11/19....which sadly cuts. There's another one on 12/1, but the 3/18/67 Dancin' takes the cake as far as early versions. (Same for the Same Thing!) The one from 9/3/67 is also very notable, you can hear them slowing down & going new places.

It's such a shame that, thanks to accidents of taping, we only have one Dancin' from then until mid-'69! (3-30-68)
The June '69 versions (6/8 and 6/22) are very cool & worth checking out (there's an SBD of the 6/22 version, so skip the AUD).
It doesn't become a regular in setlists until December '69 - from that month, 12/29/69 is easily the best one.

1970 was the heyday for Dancin', when it really became a jamming monster. 2/27/70 is one little-known version that's worth a listen - 3/21/70 is also spectacular. But April/May is the absolute peak - 4/12, 4/15, 5/2, 5/6, can't be topped.

From later months, also check out 6/6, 9/18, 10/24, 11/8, and 12/17/70 for some really good versions - and even the 8/18 AUD (which also has the longest jam in Man's World).
The last 'early-era' version I think is from 12/31/71, which is not really notable.

If you're looking specifically for Dancin's with Tighten Up jams, here's a (probably incomplete) list. I noted in my Thematic Jams post, for its first few months Tighten Up happened only in Dark Star. "It's surprising it took so long for them to play it in Dancing, since it's similar to the usual Dancing two-chord jam pattern - on 12/11/69 for instance, the Dancing is extremely close to a Tighten Up."

3-1-70
3-21-70
4-3-70
4-15-70
5-2-70
5-6-70
6-6-70
7-12-70 (terrible AUD, great show)
10-5-70 (Download Series with 2/4/70)
10-24-70
10-30-70b
11-8-70
12-17-70

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jan 19, 2010 10:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Nice breakdown! I'm a big fan of 12/17/70.

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Jan 20, 2010 5:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Thanks LiA and everyone else - this will keep me busy at work today...

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Jan 20, 2010 6:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Man, has anyone else ever noticed Weir's Cosmic Charlie tease in the 4-15-70 version? It happens around the 9 minute mark.

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Poster: gphishmon Date: Jan 20, 2010 4:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

"Tighten up" jam - is that the jam they do in the middle of Dark Star from 4/14/72, with Phil playing D - C# - B - A repeatedly? And didn't they slow it down and rework to fit in the key of D in the China>Rider transition?

As far as the MoTown Dancin' is concerned, I defy anyone to show me anything better than 5/2/70. The gold standard.

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Jan 20, 2010 4:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

Tighten up is the jam you find in the 5/2/70 dancin' starting around 4:50. Weir starts playing the chords while Jerry dances around on a different scale for a while; then Jerry joins him at 6:55, playing the main theme about a minute later. The whole thing finally comes to a close at about 10:20.

You can also find what I think to be the best version of it in the 10-31-71 Dark Star at about 13:25; it emerges out of the ashes of a lot of darkness and brings me into the clouds every time.

The D-C#-B-A jam you were talking about is dubbed the Feelin' Groovy jam due to its resemblance to a S&G tune. It's in a lot of Dark Stars (and at least one Dancin') and yes, it did later become part of the bridge between China > Rider. They didn't need to rework it, they use those same four chords - what was a sort of restful, peaceful cadence in A (dark star) become an energetic, driving push in D (china > rider).

Hope the long reply was welcome.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 21, 2010 2:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best early-era dancin' in the streets?

GenniBenni described it well -
More info here -
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=280194